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    A new Bill which is actively discussed in USA is going to wipe Internet as we know.. SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) can snap Internet across border-in a matter of time..The Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), also known as H.R. 3261, is a bill that was introduced in the United States House of Representatives on October 26, 2011, by Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) and a bipartisan group of 12 initial co-sponsors.

    For existing laws the piratedsites blocked, confiscated, and the offender liable to be only civil damages. But present bill extends this ,

    The originally proposed bill would allow the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as copyright holders, to seek court orders against websites accused of enabling or facilitating copyright infringement. Depending on who requests the court orders, the actions could include barring online advertising networks and payment facilitators such as PayPal from doing business with the allegedly infringing website, barring search engines from linking to such sites, and requiring Internet service providers to block access to such sites. The bill would make unauthorized streaming of copyrighted content a crime, with a maximum penalty of five years in prison for 10 pieces of music or movies within six months. The bill also gives immunity to Internet services that voluntarily take action against websites dedicated to infringement, while making liable for damages any copyright holder who knowingly misrepresents that a website is dedicated to infringement
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    Not only content up-loaders but also the site owners as well as the Domain hosters will be liable for any 'Piracy' related content. What its implication is, even foreign sites which are not USA, but hosted in USA, and domain register in USA are to be liable..
    Suppose, if a poster happen to give a link for sharing some music in a post, in any one of obscure thread, and 'think digit' is hosted in GODADY (for example only) than entire site will be taken by 'Home Land security USA" and the offence is punishable by 5 years prison term...

    this will kill Google's you tube,facebook, and all other social sites..
    Worst thing is USA Domain Register and web hoster GoDady is supporting the bill(meaning they simply handover your sites to FBI without blinking your eyes
    GoDaddy Faces boycott over SOPA support

    The Movie and Music industry which funded several congressmen and senators has backed the bill

    Mozilla organisation responded by creating a page saying: "Protect the Internet: Help us stop the Internet Blacklist Legislation." It warns that "your favorite Web sites both inside and outside the US could be blocked based on an infringement claim."

    Web sites including Wikimedia (as in, Wikipedia) charged that SOPA is an "Internet blacklist bill" that "would allow corporations, organizations, or the government to order an Internet service provider to block an entire Web site simply due to an allegation that the site posted infringing content."

    Google, yahoo, Amazon,ebay all the internet giants (except GoDady) oppose the bill.

    one way to circumvent the bill is, move your Domains and web hosting to webhosting services in other countries(not one of GoDady or its proxy,shell company)

    Do you think SOPA will kill internet? give your reasons..
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    They dropped the idea because its hurting their business. If you read their press release it isn't really assuring. Besides, now that GoDaddy doesn't have a strong stand or opinion/loyalty, people will be even more convinced to shift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sorcerer View Post
    They dropped the idea because its hurting their business. If you read their press release it isn't really assuring. Besides, now that GoDaddy doesn't have a strong stand or opinion/loyalty, people will be even more convinced to shift.
    true....but the initial standing will continue to hurt them....
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    SOPA will have to go down, and it will. The US Law cannot fight hundreds of millions of people who are going to oppose it. It will decrease the US economy..
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    ^^ It's not that simply really.
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    Ideally it should go down. If all those morons succeeds in doing so then Indian corporates and lobbyists will use it to make their point stronger to make a similar law (on paper) but the implementation will be course because apparently being technically dumb is a pro rather than a con since anyone can get away by saying "ooops, I didn't know that! hehe!!!".

    What was that judge thinking when he gave the permission to reliance to do all that?? Its illegal and goes against everything. Even Airtel is blocking File Sharing now IINM.

    U.S. Hosting companies can always shift to Canada. You'll never see those associations trolling over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sorcerer View Post
    Ideally it should go down. If all those morons succeeds in doing so then Indian corporates and lobbyists will use it to make their point stronger to make a similar law (on paper) but the implementation will be course because apparently being technically dumb is a pro rather than a con since anyone can get away by saying "ooops, I didn't know that! hehe!!!".

    What was that judge thinking when he gave the permission to reliance to do all that?? Its illegal and goes against everything. Even Airtel is blocking File Sharing now IINM.

    U.S. Hosting companies can always shift to Canada. You'll never see those associations trolling over there.
    I was just about to say this. This is probably the 4th-5th time Reliance has been given a John Doe blanket cover ordering them to block 'all' file sharing. Wonder what logic the Reliance team used. Is this not close to SOPA....heck it is SOPA.
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    what actually going to happening is (already happened with present DMCA ) first the MAFIA (USA Movie industry) RIAA (recording industry) have to submit some sort of list that they want to block.. so, an agent appointed by them (probably a local police officer) will go to google and type 'GOD' there you see millions of 'GOD' .. So he look out any infringement there.. hey there is , "Near you thee.. GOD!" a song appear in a Hollywood film which is watched in you tube..that is enough for him.. He will simply copy the page of linked list and print it, then same will be shown to the judge. for the judge to sign one song is enough ; so he will simply signed on the DOTTED line which MAFIA produced. Now it is the duty of MAFIA to raid the sites they wanted and confiscated,even arrested,( a nominal taking down notice will be issued beforehand, so the legal technicality completed) since most of the site owner will be in foreign countries, the USA web hosting company will simply confiscated the site , hand over entire domain to Home land Security, which was created for OSAMA bin laden, but now haunting down thousands of teenagers,arresting them...
    the problems in the current legislation is , even for a site which the MAFIA didn't owned the copyright (thus they assigned to public Domain, (copyright expired,issued under creative commons license etc.,).

    One good outcome will be, that in case of SOPA legalised, then the INTERNET giants, Google, Yahoo,Mozilla, Amazon, ebay all will quit USA, but shifted their base to EUROPE even to India and philipines and East Asian countries....

    next stage, USA will be cut out from the rest of the world, since all the world powers will create another section of internet without USA. Europe has already warn this to be a next stage..

    It seem , history is repeating in a reverse way.. when Hitler,burned millions Jews, many escaped and moved to other countries,(USA is one of them) and that countries prospered..

    this time MAFIA is already takeover entire congress and Senate, (the president is now a toothless tiger) and implementing the theories from their master's 'meinKemp"

    perhaps I may be selfish.. i want SOPA should win.. so the USA companies migrated to India.. howZZZISTAT!!!
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    Relocate errything out of USA.

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    lol spoa cabana
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    Congressional Support/Opposition of SOPA

    Doesn't look good for now. Wow the representatives don't listen to their people. Democracy doesn't look too re-assuring now.
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    I saw this long ago. It looks like the ad-hoc version of The Great Firewall of China.
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    Apple and MS are in support of SOPA. Still a fan ?
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    I was never a fan of either.

    BTW I hate apple junk with a vengeance.
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    Haven't read any official stance by Microsoft on SOPA yet, any link? Think the same with Apple.

    29 Tech Companies Back SOPA

    By this logic Intel supports SOPA as well (implicitly)...Dell as well...and so many others.
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    Their stand is similar to GoDaddy

    Microsoft did support the pre-SOPA Protect IP Act, something that SOPA did draw on heavily for its roots. To quote the official page on the House website: “The Stop Online Piracy Act (H.R. 3261) builds on the Pro IP Act of 2008 and the Senate’s Protect IP Act introduced earlier this year.”
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    If the picture given by vaithy here has any credibility, I would too like SOPA to win.
    Oh man, its terrifying to imagine the state of USA if the bill passes.

    But it ain't going to be easy. Just like GoDaddy withdraw its support from SOPA (atleast in written), after it realized how much damage it can do in just a fortnight, the companies which are supporting SOPA, will realize eventually. With an only exception, that damage will already be done.

    Btw, here's an infographic by mashable, which explains the bill in a easy language,
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    USki maaki aankh...

    So US congress is also like Indian Congress adamant, playing to riches, selfish
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    I personally think piracy does not hurt that much to this companies. MW3 made 400million in fisrt 24 hours of launch and cross 1 bl in just 16 days... So they made lots of money... And the game still was pirated hugely. They would not have made money if piracy is big problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaithy View Post
    what actually going to happening is (already happened with present DMCA ) first the MAFIA (USA Movie industry) RIAA (recording industry) have to submit some sort of list that they want to block.. so, an agent appointed by them (probably a local police officer) will go to google and type 'GOD' there you see millions of 'GOD' .. So he look out any infringement there.. hey there is , "Near you thee.. GOD!" a song appear in a Hollywood film which is watched in you tube..that is enough for him.. He will simply copy the page of linked list and print it, then same will be shown to the judge. for the judge to sign one song is enough ; so he will simply signed on the DOTTED line which MAFIA produced. Now it is the duty of MAFIA to raid the sites they wanted and confiscated,even arrested,( a nominal taking down notice will be issued beforehand, so the legal technicality completed) since most of the site owner will be in foreign countries, the USA web hosting company will simply confiscated the site , hand over entire domain to Home land Security, which was created for OSAMA bin laden, but now haunting down thousands of teenagers,arresting them...
    the problems in the current legislation is , even for a site which the MAFIA didn't owned the copyright (thus they assigned to public Domain, (copyright expired,issued under creative commons license etc.,).

    One good outcome will be, that in case of SOPA legalised, then the INTERNET giants, Google, Yahoo,Mozilla, Amazon, ebay all will quit USA, but shifted their base to EUROPE even to India and philipines and East Asian countries....

    next stage, USA will be cut out from the rest of the world, since all the world powers will create another section of internet without USA. Europe has already warn this to be a next stage..

    It seem , history is repeating in a reverse way.. when Hitler,burned millions Jews, many escaped and moved to other countries,(USA is one of them) and that countries prospered..

    this time MAFIA is already takeover entire congress and Senate, (the president is now a toothless tiger) and implementing the theories from their master's 'meinKemp"

    perhaps I may be selfish.. i want SOPA should win.. so the USA companies migrated to India.. howZZZISTAT!!!
    Exactly my reaction.. is this bill gets though, other countries will benefit from the migration..
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    Traditionally universities networks are enjoying, immunity to be prosecuted for infringement of copyrighted works, in the USA.. However this bill will take away, and bring them under them..
    Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO), the only member of Congress present at the hearing with any tech experience, having founded several web companies, introduced two amendments: one to exclude universities and non-profits from being subject do having to shut down their own domain servers if accused of piracy under SOPA, and the other to exempt dynamic IP addresses, such as those found on web-enabled printers. Both were voted down.
    This implication is simple.. some of the students may access some copyrighted work paper and downloaded for his research,(as many students are using the University networks,proxy server for their work,.. universities will lose their Domain (presently confiscated Domains are handed to GoDady, that is the reason they support the Bill)

    Even for wrong seizures, the bill protect the media industries, and to the victims nothing!!
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    And, now Wikipedia also dropped out from GoDaddy!
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    Hi charan!
    Instead of boycotting "GoDady" use your money to threat them,that you will withdraw from the future transaction(unless they give the commitment to stop supporting SOPA)."threat is more powerful, than the deathly weapon".. I am a novice in such matter.. please clarify, even after you,renew your account with them, you can still transfer to some others ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaithy View Post
    Hi charan!
    Instead of boycotting "GoDady" use your money to threat them,that you will withdraw from the future transaction(unless they give the commitment to stop supporting SOPA)."threat is more powerful, than the deathly weapon".. I am a novice in such matter.. please clarify, even after you,renew your account with them, you can still transfer to some others ?
    Yes, you can transfer even after renewing the account, but you still gotta pay, I use it only for a single email ID which I use. I had paid approx 1.5K for the domain name+making the domain private.
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