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    URGENT!!! PLZ HELP...(sorry for such a long post)

    I'll be happy if this models can play CRYSIS atleast at low settings , obviously in DX9 mode. Thatz enuf for me!!! ....These are the models i have chosen with money as main constraint...

    Pavilion DV6910TX Laptop with 3 GB (New model) (COST- ARND RS.51000)
    Processor: Centrino - Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5750 (2.00 GHz),(Intel 965PM Express Chipset / 2MB L2 Cache / 667 Mhz FSB)
    Oprating system: Windows Vista Home Premium Memory: 3 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 (667 MHz)Hard Disk: 320 GB SATA @ 5400 RPM)Optical : Super Multi Drive DVD +RW/ +R Writer Light ScribeGraphics: NVIDIA GeForce GS 8400M -256MB Dedicated
    Display: 15.4" WideScreen (WXGA) with BrightView TechnologyFinger Print Reader, Remote Control, Bluetooth. Integrated Web Cam & Microphones, 5-in-1 Digital Media Reader, Integrated 802.11b/g Wireless LAN / Bluetooth, ExpressCard/54 Slot, S-Video TV Out / IEEE 1394a / 3 USB 2.0, IR Remote, 6 Cell Lithium Battery, Weight 2.60 kg.Warranty: One year warranty (option to extend three years)Software: HP QuickPlay, HP Mobile Express Card Remote Control HP Photosmart Premier, Norton Antivirus (60 days live update), MS Works 8.5, Acrobat Reader 8.0, Muvee Autoproducer, Cyberlink DVD Suite, HP Games

    DELL VOSTRO 1710 (COST - RS.52614)
    Processors Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo Processor T5850(2.0GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)

    Operating SystemGenuine Windows Vista® Home Basic

    Memory3GBDual Channel 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM5.
    ChipsetWith discrete graphics: Intel® PM965 Express chipset

    GraphicsDiscrete Graphic Card: 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GS Graphics

    LCD Display17" Wide Screen WXGA+ (1440 x 900 screen resolution) with anti-glare coating
    Audio and SpeakersTwo channel high definition audio codec;
    Hard Drives5400RPM: 250 GB

    Optical DrivesFixed Internal 8x DVD / 24x CDRW Combo Slot Load Drive including Software
    Power6-cell 58WHr Li-Ion Battery
    Cameraintegrated 1.3 mega pixel webcam in LCD back with camera indicator and (1) digital microphone
    WirelessWi-Fi Options:
    Intel® Pro/Wireless 3945 802.11 a/g Mini Card Wireless

    Bluetooth Options:
    Dell Wireless 360 Bluetooth® Module (2.0 + Enhanced Data Rate)
    Ports, Slots, ChassisExternally Accessible
    (6) USB 2.0 compliant 4-pin ports
    15-pin VGA video connector
    Integrated network connector 10/100/1000 LAN (RJ45)
    AC adapter connector
    Microphone in & Headphone jack
    4-pin IEEE 1394 port
    8-in-1 media memory card reader
    54 mm ExpressCard slot
    Optional External Modem via USB port
    Internal Card Slots
    1 Mini-Card

    Dimensions & Weight
    Width: 15.5" (393mm)
    Height: 1.32" (33.6mm) front / 1.59" (40.5mm) back
    Depth: 11.3" (286mm)
    Weight: Starting weight at 7.07 lbs (3.21 kg)7

    DIFFERENCES:
    1)The main difference is GPU which is very important for
    gaming. DELL gives 8600m gs while HP gives 8400m gs.

    2) HP has service centers are everywhere in India whereas DELL doesn't have any?. I am not sure how reliable is DELL service without any physical existence.

    3) HP ilaptops are in a offer period now and it comes with a 8.2 MP digicam free .

    I am not able to decide between DELL superior config and HP reliable service centers.

    Can u guyz tell me howz DELL's service in India, any personal experiences ?. If its good and if the cost is also negotiable with DELL,its my first choice.so guys can u tell me how to bargain with sales rep. How to approach him for any discount.

    Incase if i didnt get discount and If 'CRYSIS' is playable at low seetings in 8400m gs, ill go for HP b'cos 8600m gs also doesn't make it playable at high settings.

    So my questions are:

    1) Are both these laptops ok for games like 'CRYSIS' at low settings?

    2) Howz DELL's service in India?

    3) Is DELL's cost negotiable and how shd i do that?

    4) are there any other 15"/17" laptops available in Indian market with nvidia 8600m gs in Cost range of 50k-53k?

    Guyz plz. help me in this regard. HP's offer is valid only till tomorrow. i have to decide it by tonite.

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    This guide for all those planning to buy new laptops


    Note:All prices indicated are approx. Street prices (including all taxes etc)
    The prices may vary +- rs.500 to rs.1000 or more depending on city and place you buy from.
    Also note that all models may not be available in all parts of country.
    The major brands to look for are Lenovo,Acer,Dell,Compaq,HP,Toshiba,IBM,sony.
    try and avoid brands such as HCL / SAHARA / Zenith PC / Amar PC etc.
    If you find any laptop model which is good and worth mentioning in a category please do post with configuration and price
    I donot need to go in details of type of laptop,category or configuration etc. As it is clearly mentioned in guide. Coming directly to main stuff (I will mainly be focusing on budget category with best value for money).

    1.BUDGET around Rs.20000
    In this category you will find ultraportables like asus eeepc,msi wind and the newly launched acer aspire one. these are meant mainly for office users,students,those who need to travel a lot and need a laptop for business purpose,as a mobile internet and communication device or those who need a secondary laptop.
    These are the cheaper variety of ultraportables meant mainly for business purpose on the move and not meant for heavy use. It is better to call them netbook rather than notebook.

    Asus eeepc
    Msi wind

    Acer aspire one
    Linux version Rs.19000,XP version Rs.21500


    2. BUDGET around Rs.25000
    In this segment notebooks to look for

    Acer aspire 5315 Intel Celeron M 560 Processor ( 2.13 GHz, 1MB L2 Cache, 533 Mhz FSB), Intel 960GML Chipset with Intel GMA X3100, 1 GB DDR2 Memory 667Mhz, 15.4"WXGA TFT LCD , 1280 X 800 Resolution, High brightness 200 nits screen with Crystal brite screen with 16ms response time, 120GB Hard Disk Drive , 8X DVD Writer, Acer Crystal Eye Webcam, Integrated 802.11 b/g Wireless LAN, 56K Fax Modem, 10/100 Ethernet, 3 USB 2.0 Ports, Linux Operating System (1 Year International Traveller's Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 25000/-

    Compaq Presario C791TU
    Intel Celeron-M 550 (2.0 GHz) / Intel 960GML Express Chipset / 1 GB DDR2 (667 MHz) /120GB HDD SATA / 8X SuperMultiDrive DVDRW with DL/ 15.4" WXGA TFT with BrightView Screen Technology /Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) X3100 / Up to 128 MB TAG memory / Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers / 56K Modem / Integrated Webcam / Integrated Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g / LiIon Battery / TouchPad / S-Video TV Out /2 USB 2.0 / DOS, Carry Case ( 1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 25550/-

    Lenovo 3000 G410-2049 52Q
    Intel Celeron M Processor 550 (2.0GHz, 1MB L2 Cache, 533MHz FSB), Intel 945GM Chipset, Intel GMA 950 Integrated Graphics, 512MB DDR2 RAM, 80GB SATA HDD, Dual Layer DVD Writer, 14.1 inch Widescreen TFT, 802.11b/g WiFi,LAN, 56K Modem, 4 in 1 Card Reader, 3 USB Ports, DOS, carry Case (1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 24550/-
    These are the best available for the price and among these acer 5315 comes out as clear winner for its value for money. second best will be Compaq unless you are diehard fan of Lenovo. And NO you cannot buy a c2d in this budget (maybe in future).

    3. BUDGET around Rs.30000
    In this category it is really difficult to choose as you will find many products from different brands with similar config. And more or less similar pricing.
    I feel in this category it is better to go with amd+graphics card based laptops than intel as what you will get is the dual core+onboard graphics which are less powerful compared to amd counterparts. Some to look for are

    Acer aspire 4520 NWXMi
    Mobile AMD Athlon 64 X2 TK-57 (1.9GHz) Processor, Nvidia nForce Graphics, 1GB DDR2 RAM, 160GB HDD, 8X Dual Layer DVD Writer, 14.1" Crystal Bright WidescreenTFT, Integrated Web CAM, Integrated Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR, LAN, 56K Modem, 5 in 1 card reader, 802.11b/g WiFi, 4 USB Ports, Linux OS, 1 year standard ITW
    Price: Rs. 28000/-

    Acer aspire 4720ZNWXMi
    Intel Pentium Dual Core Processor T2390 (1.86GHz, 1MB, 533MHz), Intel 960GL Chipset with Intel GMA X3100 Integrated 3D graphics controller, up to 224MB Shared Memory, 2*1 GB DDR2 Memory 667Mhz(1 GB), 14.1"WXGA TFT LCD , 1280 X 800 Resolution, High brightness 200 nits screen with Crystal brite screen with 16ms response time, 160GB Hard Disk Drive, 8X DVD-Super Multi double-layer drive, Integrated 802.11 b/g Wireless LAN, 56K Fax Modem, 10/100/1000 Ethernet, Integrated Webcam, 4 USB 2.0 Ports, Integrated 5-in-1 Card Reader, Dolby Sterio Speakers, Linux Operating System (1 Year International Traveller's Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 30000/-

    Compaq C770TU
    Intel Pentium Dual Core Processor T2370 (1.73 GHz) / 1 MB L2 Cache / 1GB DDR2 / 160GB SATA HDD / 8X SuperMulti DVDRW with DL/ 15.4" Widescreen WXGA TFT Display with BrightView Screen Technology /Intel 960GL Express chipset/ Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) X3100 / up to 251 MB TAG Memory / Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers / 56K Modem /Integrated Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g / LiIon Battery / TouchPad / S-Video TV Out / 2 USB 2.0 / Integrated Webcam / DOS, Carry Case ( 1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 30000/-

    Lenovo 3000 N200-0769 A74
    Mobile Intel Pentium Dual Core T2370 Processor @ 1.73GHz, Intel 960ML Chipset, 512MB RAM, 120GB HDD, Dual Layer DVD Writer, 15.4 inch Widescreen TFT, Integrated Bluetooth, 802.11a/b/g WiFi,LAN, 56K Modem, 4 in 1 Card Reader, 4 USB Ports, Free Dos, Carry Case( 1 Year Limited Warranty).
    Price: Rs. 31000/-

    I personally don’t recommend HCL but i could not stop myself not to look at this model from HCL.I don’t think that any company can beat this.For the price what HCL is giving I think this is the cheapest c2d laptop that you can get in this budget and certainly better than buying any local brand(If anyone knows any other do let us all know) So,those of you who want a c2d in this budget range you can get it only from HCL.But even though it is cheapest i will spend few extra bucks and go for some better brand.
    HCL B3011
    Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5550 1.86 GHz, 667 MHz FSB, Wireless Network 802.11b/g, Free DOS,1 GB DDR2 SDRAM upgradeable,160 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive, DVD Super Multi Drive, Web Camera Integrated, Bluetooth Integrated, 15.4”WXGA Wide Screen TFT (1280X768) with View Perfect Technology Inbuilt, 4 in 1 Card Reader, PC Card Slot,87 Keys + 2 Hot Keys Keyboard, Touchpad Li-ion Battery (6 cells) Approx. 3 Hrs (Idle State)Approx. 2.8 Kg weight without Adaptor, 10/100 mbps Ethernet, 56K Modem, Inbuilt Speaker, System Power Management -ACPI 3.0 with Enhanced Intel Speed Step technology Ports: 4 USB, 1* mini IEEE1394, 1*External MIC, 1*External Audio, 1*Internal MIC one Year Warranty, Leaptop Companion DVD Targus Carry Bag
    Price: Rs. 31900/-

    4.BUDGET around Rs.35000
    This category also provides plenty of options for the customers.
    At this price you can get a full fledged notebook with almost all modern features expected in a notebook. This kind of notebook is perfect for home users and for those who will use it for all general purpose it will run all your software,music, videos, vista with aero effect and can do mild gaming(don’t expect to play crysis with onboard graphics)
    The only thing that i would like to mention is that you might not get a graphics card(except if you buy amd based laptop) at this price and may have to push your budget to get one.
    Having a discrete graphics card is better than an onboard graphics solution but this is upto you as if you are not planning to do any gaming or want to do very mild gaming or will not use any graphics intensive programs then onboard X3100 should be enough for you
    Look for no less but c2d based laptops.
    Models to look for

    Acer aspire 5920NWXMi
    Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5550 @ 1.86GHz, Intel 965GM Chipset with GMAx3100, 2GB DDR2 RAM, 160GB SATA HDD, 8X Dual Layer DVD Writer, 15.4" Crystal Bright WidescreenTFT with 220nits and response time 8ms, Integrated Blueetooth 2.0, Integrated Web CAM, LAN, 56K Modem, 5 in 1 card reader, 802.11a/b/g WiFi, 4 USB Ports, Linux , Dolby sterio Speaker with subwoofer, 1 year standard ITW.
    Price: Rs. 34500/-

    Compaq C785TU
    Intel Core2 Duo Processor T5550 (1.86 GHz) / Intel 965GM Express Chipset / 1 GB DDR2 (667 MHz) /160GB HDD SATA / 8X SuperMultiDrive DVDRW with DL/ 15.4" WXGA TFT with BrightView Screen Technology /Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) X3100 / Up to 128 MB TAG memory / Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers / 56K Modem / Integrated Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g / LiIon Battery / TouchPad / S-Video TV Out /2 USB 2.0 / DOS, Carry Case ( 1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 35000/-

    Compaq Presario V3749AU
    AMD Turion64 X2 TL-60 (2.0 GHz) / 512KB L2 Cache /2GB DDR2 / 160GB SATA HDD / 8X SuperMulti DVDRW with DL/ NVIDIA MCP67M Chipset / 14.1" Widescreen WXGA TFT Display with BrightView Screen Technology / NVIDIA GeForce Go7150M GS/ Upto 799MB TAG Memory / Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers / 56K Modem /Integrated Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g / LiIon Battery / TouchPad / S-Video TV Out / 3 USB 2.0 / Integrated Webcam / Vista Home Basic, Carry Case ( 1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 35000/-

    Lenovo 3000 N200-0769 AB2
    Mobile Intel Core 2 Duo T5450 Processor @ 1.66GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 667 MHz FSB, Intel 965GM Chipset, 1GB DDR2 RAM, 160GB SATA HDD, Dual Layer DVD Writer, 15.4 inch Widescreen TFT, Integrated Bluetooth, Intgrated Web CAM, 802.11a/b/g WiFi,LAN, 56K Modem, 4 in 1 Card Reader, 3 USB Ports, DOS, carry Case (1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 36500/-

    Few things to note
    About Dell >i did not mentioned dell not because they are not good but because of the difference in web price and the delivery price. Though dell makes good laptops which are customizable and real value for money at the web price but the final price that you have to give defeats whole purpose of any savings.
    >For any laptop shown on the web you will have to add Rs.5000 or more extra as taxes and delivery charges so a 35000 laptop on web will cost you 40000 or more.
    >Second thing is that there are not much service centers and also you cannot look and feel the laptop personally before buying(i have heard that dell will partner with some store chain and you can see the laptops before buying but don’t know when this will happen). >So buy dell only if you have budget of >35k(maybe you can get a vostro for less) and if you don’t mind spending those few extra bucks in taxes and delivery charges. Dell is good for those with budget range of 40-60k.
    >Those looking for gaming laptops Dell XPS series is the best >One tip to save money is if you know anyone who is a dell employee then get the laptop through him/her as they get heavy discounts as an employee and you will get laptop even cheaper than the web price.So,if you know anyone then think for no other laptop but dell.

    About HP
    >HP laptops are known for their quality but this comes at premium price. Compared to similar products in market HP laptops costs about 5000-15000rs more than others.
    >One more thing do look at HP india site as HP has launched new model with great configs.

    about Macbook
    >Real good machine but same problem cost.

    About sony
    >very few options to choose from and that too is costly compared to the config provided(sony laptops just for total show off)

    About Toshiba >haven’t seen much around so can’t really comment on it.

    So to summarise in short Budget 20k-35k go for brands like Acer,Lenovo,Compaq as these will only give you best value for money in this range. Budget >40k go for Dell,HP,Macbook

    About Centrino 2:
    Centrino 2 is now here (launched by intel in july 2008) so i don’t know where the market will turn.
    None of the major brands except HP and recently acer have launched centrino2 notebooks in India which indicates that major brands are still trying to sell centrino and most probably if you buy a laptop now you will buy a c2d+x3100(centrino) as market is filled with these and even the older generation dual core and amds.
    To highlight features of Centrino2
    • code-name Montevina
    • fifth-generation Centrino platform, now formally named Centrino 2
    • processor--a second-generation Intel Core2 Duo 45nm processor with 1066 MT/s FSB with clock speeds ranging from 2.26 GHz to 3.06 GHz, also featuring SSE4.1 support, which adds 47 new instructions to SSSE3. It is planned to consume no more than 29W, compared to Merom's and first-generation Penryn's 34W TDP.
    • an Intel Mobile 4 Express series chipset ( GL40, GS45, GM45, GM47 or PM45) with Intel's GMA X4500 graphics technology and ICH9M southbridge, 1066 MT/s front side bus. The graphics core GM45/47 is expected to be clocked at 533/640MHz which will contain ten unified shaders, up from the eight provided by GMA X3100. X4500 is 3 times more powerful than X3100.Performance of X4500 can be compare to nvidia 8400GS and it will be able to run crysis in low settings.
    • RAM support for DDR2-667, DDR2-800, DDR3-800, DDR3-1066 and DDR3-1333 SO-DIMM.
    • NAND flash-memory caching branded as Intel Turbo Memory .
    • Gigabit Ethernet LAN controllers 82567LM and 82567LF .
    • Main support for DisplayPort with an external connector attached to the motherboard along with full supplemental support of HDMI, DVI, and VGA standards.
    • Intel WiFi Link 4965AGN (a/b/g/draft-n) Wireless-N technology boasts a 5X speed increase, along with a 2X greater coverage area.
    As from my prediction you should be able to get centrino 2 notebooks from all major brands by end of this year or starting of 2009 by then market will be ready.
    So if you need laptop urgently go ahead and buy one or if you want to wait, wait for centrino2 not centrino.

    hope this helps someone

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    hey u all which is the best laptop processor of the lot coz i m a bit copnfused abt them
    whether the Core2Duo is good or the Atom or to go for the M/T series or AMD pls tell me in detail abt speed,cache,FSB ......
    pls tell me the difference between Centrino2 and others i m relly confused
    ps:i m planning for an portable one(read12")
    Last edited by appy; 02-10-2008 at 01:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulkit_aga View Post
    This guide for all those planning to buy new laptops


    Note:All prices indicated are approx. Street prices (including all taxes etc)
    The prices may vary +- rs.500 to rs.1000 or more depending on city and place you buy from.
    Also note that all models may not be available in all parts of country.
    The major brands to look for are Lenovo,Acer,Dell,Compaq,HP,Toshiba,IBM,sony.
    try and avoid brands such as HCL / SAHARA / Zenith PC / Amar PC etc.
    If you find any laptop model which is good and worth mentioning in a category please do post with configuration and price
    I donot need to go in details of type of laptop,category or configuration etc. As it is clearly mentioned in guide. Coming directly to main stuff (I will mainly be focusing on budget category with best value for money).

    1.BUDGET around Rs.20000
    In this category you will find ultraportables like asus eeepc,msi wind and the newly launched acer aspire one. these are meant mainly for office users,students,those who need to travel a lot and need a laptop for business purpose,as a mobile internet and communication device or those who need a secondary laptop.
    These are the cheaper variety of ultraportables meant mainly for business purpose on the move and not meant for heavy use. It is better to call them netbook rather than notebook.

    Asus eeepc
    Msi wind

    Acer aspire one
    Linux version Rs.19000,XP version Rs.21500


    2. BUDGET around Rs.25000
    In this segment notebooks to look for

    Acer aspire 5315 Intel Celeron M 560 Processor ( 2.13 GHz, 1MB L2 Cache, 533 Mhz FSB), Intel 960GML Chipset with Intel GMA X3100, 1 GB DDR2 Memory 667Mhz, 15.4"WXGA TFT LCD , 1280 X 800 Resolution, High brightness 200 nits screen with Crystal brite screen with 16ms response time, 120GB Hard Disk Drive , 8X DVD Writer, Acer Crystal Eye Webcam, Integrated 802.11 b/g Wireless LAN, 56K Fax Modem, 10/100 Ethernet, 3 USB 2.0 Ports, Linux Operating System (1 Year International Traveller's Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 25000/-

    Compaq Presario C791TU
    Intel Celeron-M 550 (2.0 GHz) / Intel 960GML Express Chipset / 1 GB DDR2 (667 MHz) /120GB HDD SATA / 8X SuperMultiDrive DVDRW with DL/ 15.4" WXGA TFT with BrightView Screen Technology /Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) X3100 / Up to 128 MB TAG memory / Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers / 56K Modem / Integrated Webcam / Integrated Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g / LiIon Battery / TouchPad / S-Video TV Out /2 USB 2.0 / DOS, Carry Case ( 1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 25550/-

    Lenovo 3000 G410-2049 52Q
    Intel Celeron M Processor 550 (2.0GHz, 1MB L2 Cache, 533MHz FSB), Intel 945GM Chipset, Intel GMA 950 Integrated Graphics, 512MB DDR2 RAM, 80GB SATA HDD, Dual Layer DVD Writer, 14.1 inch Widescreen TFT, 802.11b/g WiFi,LAN, 56K Modem, 4 in 1 Card Reader, 3 USB Ports, DOS, carry Case (1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 24550/-
    These are the best available for the price and among these acer 5315 comes out as clear winner for its value for money. second best will be Compaq unless you are diehard fan of Lenovo. And NO you cannot buy a c2d in this budget (maybe in future).

    3. BUDGET around Rs.30000
    In this category it is really difficult to choose as you will find many products from different brands with similar config. And more or less similar pricing.
    I feel in this category it is better to go with amd+graphics card based laptops than intel as what you will get is the dual core+onboard graphics which are less powerful compared to amd counterparts. Some to look for are

    Acer aspire 4520 NWXMi
    Mobile AMD Athlon 64 X2 TK-57 (1.9GHz) Processor, Nvidia nForce Graphics, 1GB DDR2 RAM, 160GB HDD, 8X Dual Layer DVD Writer, 14.1" Crystal Bright WidescreenTFT, Integrated Web CAM, Integrated Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR, LAN, 56K Modem, 5 in 1 card reader, 802.11b/g WiFi, 4 USB Ports, Linux OS, 1 year standard ITW
    Price: Rs. 28000/-

    Acer aspire 4720ZNWXMi
    Intel Pentium Dual Core Processor T2390 (1.86GHz, 1MB, 533MHz), Intel 960GL Chipset with Intel GMA X3100 Integrated 3D graphics controller, up to 224MB Shared Memory, 2*1 GB DDR2 Memory 667Mhz(1 GB), 14.1"WXGA TFT LCD , 1280 X 800 Resolution, High brightness 200 nits screen with Crystal brite screen with 16ms response time, 160GB Hard Disk Drive, 8X DVD-Super Multi double-layer drive, Integrated 802.11 b/g Wireless LAN, 56K Fax Modem, 10/100/1000 Ethernet, Integrated Webcam, 4 USB 2.0 Ports, Integrated 5-in-1 Card Reader, Dolby Sterio Speakers, Linux Operating System (1 Year International Traveller's Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 30000/-

    Compaq C770TU
    Intel Pentium Dual Core Processor T2370 (1.73 GHz) / 1 MB L2 Cache / 1GB DDR2 / 160GB SATA HDD / 8X SuperMulti DVDRW with DL/ 15.4" Widescreen WXGA TFT Display with BrightView Screen Technology /Intel 960GL Express chipset/ Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) X3100 / up to 251 MB TAG Memory / Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers / 56K Modem /Integrated Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g / LiIon Battery / TouchPad / S-Video TV Out / 2 USB 2.0 / Integrated Webcam / DOS, Carry Case ( 1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 30000/-

    Lenovo 3000 N200-0769 A74
    Mobile Intel Pentium Dual Core T2370 Processor @ 1.73GHz, Intel 960ML Chipset, 512MB RAM, 120GB HDD, Dual Layer DVD Writer, 15.4 inch Widescreen TFT, Integrated Bluetooth, 802.11a/b/g WiFi,LAN, 56K Modem, 4 in 1 Card Reader, 4 USB Ports, Free Dos, Carry Case( 1 Year Limited Warranty).
    Price: Rs. 31000/-

    I personally don’t recommend HCL but i could not stop myself not to look at this model from HCL.I don’t think that any company can beat this.For the price what HCL is giving I think this is the cheapest c2d laptop that you can get in this budget and certainly better than buying any local brand(If anyone knows any other do let us all know) So,those of you who want a c2d in this budget range you can get it only from HCL.But even though it is cheapest i will spend few extra bucks and go for some better brand.
    HCL B3011
    Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5550 1.86 GHz, 667 MHz FSB, Wireless Network 802.11b/g, Free DOS,1 GB DDR2 SDRAM upgradeable,160 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive, DVD Super Multi Drive, Web Camera Integrated, Bluetooth Integrated, 15.4”WXGA Wide Screen TFT (1280X768) with View Perfect Technology Inbuilt, 4 in 1 Card Reader, PC Card Slot,87 Keys + 2 Hot Keys Keyboard, Touchpad Li-ion Battery (6 cells) Approx. 3 Hrs (Idle State)Approx. 2.8 Kg weight without Adaptor, 10/100 mbps Ethernet, 56K Modem, Inbuilt Speaker, System Power Management -ACPI 3.0 with Enhanced Intel Speed Step technology Ports: 4 USB, 1* mini IEEE1394, 1*External MIC, 1*External Audio, 1*Internal MIC one Year Warranty, Leaptop Companion DVD Targus Carry Bag
    Price: Rs. 31900/-

    4.BUDGET around Rs.35000
    This category also provides plenty of options for the customers.
    At this price you can get a full fledged notebook with almost all modern features expected in a notebook. This kind of notebook is perfect for home users and for those who will use it for all general purpose it will run all your software,music, videos, vista with aero effect and can do mild gaming(don’t expect to play crysis with onboard graphics)
    The only thing that i would like to mention is that you might not get a graphics card(except if you buy amd based laptop) at this price and may have to push your budget to get one.
    Having a discrete graphics card is better than an onboard graphics solution but this is upto you as if you are not planning to do any gaming or want to do very mild gaming or will not use any graphics intensive programs then onboard X3100 should be enough for you
    Look for no less but c2d based laptops.
    Models to look for

    Acer aspire 5920NWXMi
    Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5550 @ 1.86GHz, Intel 965GM Chipset with GMAx3100, 2GB DDR2 RAM, 160GB SATA HDD, 8X Dual Layer DVD Writer, 15.4" Crystal Bright WidescreenTFT with 220nits and response time 8ms, Integrated Blueetooth 2.0, Integrated Web CAM, LAN, 56K Modem, 5 in 1 card reader, 802.11a/b/g WiFi, 4 USB Ports, Linux , Dolby sterio Speaker with subwoofer, 1 year standard ITW.
    Price: Rs. 34500/-

    Compaq C785TU
    Intel Core2 Duo Processor T5550 (1.86 GHz) / Intel 965GM Express Chipset / 1 GB DDR2 (667 MHz) /160GB HDD SATA / 8X SuperMultiDrive DVDRW with DL/ 15.4" WXGA TFT with BrightView Screen Technology /Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) X3100 / Up to 128 MB TAG memory / Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers / 56K Modem / Integrated Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g / LiIon Battery / TouchPad / S-Video TV Out /2 USB 2.0 / DOS, Carry Case ( 1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 35000/-

    Compaq Presario V3749AU
    AMD Turion64 X2 TL-60 (2.0 GHz) / 512KB L2 Cache /2GB DDR2 / 160GB SATA HDD / 8X SuperMulti DVDRW with DL/ NVIDIA MCP67M Chipset / 14.1" Widescreen WXGA TFT Display with BrightView Screen Technology / NVIDIA GeForce Go7150M GS/ Upto 799MB TAG Memory / Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers / 56K Modem /Integrated Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g / LiIon Battery / TouchPad / S-Video TV Out / 3 USB 2.0 / Integrated Webcam / Vista Home Basic, Carry Case ( 1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 35000/-

    Lenovo 3000 N200-0769 AB2
    Mobile Intel Core 2 Duo T5450 Processor @ 1.66GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 667 MHz FSB, Intel 965GM Chipset, 1GB DDR2 RAM, 160GB SATA HDD, Dual Layer DVD Writer, 15.4 inch Widescreen TFT, Integrated Bluetooth, Intgrated Web CAM, 802.11a/b/g WiFi,LAN, 56K Modem, 4 in 1 Card Reader, 3 USB Ports, DOS, carry Case (1 Year Limited Warranty)
    Price: Rs. 36500/-

    Few things to note
    About Dell >i did not mentioned dell not because they are not good but because of the difference in web price and the delivery price. Though dell makes good laptops which are customizable and real value for money at the web price but the final price that you have to give defeats whole purpose of any savings.
    >For any laptop shown on the web you will have to add Rs.5000 or more extra as taxes and delivery charges so a 35000 laptop on web will cost you 40000 or more.
    >Second thing is that there are not much service centers and also you cannot look and feel the laptop personally before buying(i have heard that dell will partner with some store chain and you can see the laptops before buying but don’t know when this will happen). >So buy dell only if you have budget of >35k(maybe you can get a vostro for less) and if you don’t mind spending those few extra bucks in taxes and delivery charges. Dell is good for those with budget range of 40-60k.
    >Those looking for gaming laptops Dell XPS series is the best >One tip to save money is if you know anyone who is a dell employee then get the laptop through him/her as they get heavy discounts as an employee and you will get laptop even cheaper than the web price.So,if you know anyone then think for no other laptop but dell.

    About HP
    >HP laptops are known for their quality but this comes at premium price. Compared to similar products in market HP laptops costs about 5000-15000rs more than others.
    >One more thing do look at HP india site as HP has launched new model with great configs.

    about Macbook
    >Real good machine but same problem cost.

    About sony
    >very few options to choose from and that too is costly compared to the config provided(sony laptops just for total show off)

    About Toshiba >haven’t seen much around so can’t really comment on it.

    So to summarise in short Budget 20k-35k go for brands like Acer,Lenovo,Compaq as these will only give you best value for money in this range. Budget >40k go for Dell,HP,Macbook

    About Centrino 2:
    Centrino 2 is now here (launched by intel in july 2008) so i don’t know where the market will turn.
    None of the major brands except HP and recently acer have launched centrino2 notebooks in India which indicates that major brands are still trying to sell centrino and most probably if you buy a laptop now you will buy a c2d+x3100(centrino) as market is filled with these and even the older generation dual core and amds.
    To highlight features of Centrino2
    • code-name Montevina
    • fifth-generation Centrino platform, now formally named Centrino 2
    • processor--a second-generation Intel Core2 Duo 45nm processor with 1066 MT/s FSB with clock speeds ranging from 2.26 GHz to 3.06 GHz, also featuring SSE4.1 support, which adds 47 new instructions to SSSE3. It is planned to consume no more than 29W, compared to Merom's and first-generation Penryn's 34W TDP.
    • an Intel Mobile 4 Express series chipset ( GL40, GS45, GM45, GM47 or PM45) with Intel's GMA X4500 graphics technology and ICH9M southbridge, 1066 MT/s front side bus. The graphics core GM45/47 is expected to be clocked at 533/640MHz which will contain ten unified shaders, up from the eight provided by GMA X3100. X4500 is 3 times more powerful than X3100.Performance of X4500 can be compare to nvidia 8400GS and it will be able to run crysis in low settings.
    • RAM support for DDR2-667, DDR2-800, DDR3-800, DDR3-1066 and DDR3-1333 SO-DIMM.
    • NAND flash-memory caching branded as Intel Turbo Memory .
    • Gigabit Ethernet LAN controllers 82567LM and 82567LF .
    • Main support for DisplayPort with an external connector attached to the motherboard along with full supplemental support of HDMI, DVI, and VGA standards.
    • Intel WiFi Link 4965AGN (a/b/g/draft-n) Wireless-N technology boasts a 5X speed increase, along with a 2X greater coverage area.
    As from my prediction you should be able to get centrino 2 notebooks from all major brands by end of this year or starting of 2009 by then market will be ready.
    So if you need laptop urgently go ahead and buy one or if you want to wait, wait for centrino2 not centrino.

    hope this helps someone
    Adding on to the above...

    Dell systems can bee Seen @ CROMA strores, before you buy.
    Dell has stopped the Employee Purchase Plan (EPP) option. Instead they give Corporate Discounts now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajit456 View Post
    URGENT!!! PLZ HELP...(sorry for such a long post)

    I'll be happy if this models can play CRYSIS atleast at low settings , obviously in DX9 mode. Thatz enuf for me!!! ....These are the models i have chosen with money as main constraint...

    Pavilion DV6910TX Laptop with 3 GB (New model) (COST- ARND RS.51000)
    Processor: Centrino - Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5750 (2.00 GHz),(Intel 965PM Express Chipset / 2MB L2 Cache / 667 Mhz FSB)
    Oprating system: Windows Vista Home Premium Memory: 3 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 (667 MHz)Hard Disk: 320 GB SATA @ 5400 RPM)Optical : Super Multi Drive DVD +RW/ +R Writer Light ScribeGraphics: NVIDIA GeForce GS 8400M -256MB Dedicated
    Display: 15.4" WideScreen (WXGA) with BrightView TechnologyFinger Print Reader, Remote Control, Bluetooth. Integrated Web Cam & Microphones, 5-in-1 Digital Media Reader, Integrated 802.11b/g Wireless LAN / Bluetooth, ExpressCard/54 Slot, S-Video TV Out / IEEE 1394a / 3 USB 2.0, IR Remote, 6 Cell Lithium Battery, Weight 2.60 kg.Warranty: One year warranty (option to extend three years)Software: HP QuickPlay, HP Mobile Express Card Remote Control HP Photosmart Premier, Norton Antivirus (60 days live update), MS Works 8.5, Acrobat Reader 8.0, Muvee Autoproducer, Cyberlink DVD Suite, HP Games

    DELL VOSTRO 1710 (COST - RS.52614)
    Processors Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo Processor T5850(2.0GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)

    Operating SystemGenuine Windows Vista® Home Basic

    Memory3GBDual Channel 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM5.
    ChipsetWith discrete graphics: Intel® PM965 Express chipset

    GraphicsDiscrete Graphic Card: 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GS Graphics

    LCD Display17" Wide Screen WXGA+ (1440 x 900 screen resolution) with anti-glare coating
    Audio and SpeakersTwo channel high definition audio codec;
    Hard Drives5400RPM: 250 GB

    Optical DrivesFixed Internal 8x DVD / 24x CDRW Combo Slot Load Drive including Software
    Power6-cell 58WHr Li-Ion Battery
    Cameraintegrated 1.3 mega pixel webcam in LCD back with camera indicator and (1) digital microphone
    WirelessWi-Fi Options:
    Intel® Pro/Wireless 3945 802.11 a/g Mini Card Wireless

    Bluetooth Options:
    Dell Wireless 360 Bluetooth® Module (2.0 + Enhanced Data Rate)
    Ports, Slots, ChassisExternally Accessible
    (6) USB 2.0 compliant 4-pin ports
    15-pin VGA video connector
    Integrated network connector 10/100/1000 LAN (RJ45)
    AC adapter connector
    Microphone in & Headphone jack
    4-pin IEEE 1394 port
    8-in-1 media memory card reader
    54 mm ExpressCard slot
    Optional External Modem via USB port
    Internal Card Slots
    1 Mini-Card

    Dimensions & Weight
    Width: 15.5" (393mm)
    Height: 1.32" (33.6mm) front / 1.59" (40.5mm) back
    Depth: 11.3" (286mm)
    Weight: Starting weight at 7.07 lbs (3.21 kg)7

    DIFFERENCES:
    1)The main difference is GPU which is very important for
    gaming. DELL gives 8600m gs while HP gives 8400m gs.

    2) HP has service centers are everywhere in India whereas DELL doesn't have any?. I am not sure how reliable is DELL service without any physical existence.

    3) HP ilaptops are in a offer period now and it comes with a 8.2 MP digicam free .

    I am not able to decide between DELL superior config and HP reliable service centers.

    Can u guyz tell me howz DELL's service in India, any personal experiences ?. If its good and if the cost is also negotiable with DELL,its my first choice.so guys can u tell me how to bargain with sales rep. How to approach him for any discount.

    Incase if i didnt get discount and If 'CRYSIS' is playable at low seetings in 8400m gs, ill go for HP b'cos 8600m gs also doesn't make it playable at high settings.

    So my questions are:

    1) Are both these laptops ok for games like 'CRYSIS' at low settings?

    2) Howz DELL's service in India?

    3) Is DELL's cost negotiable and how shd i do that?

    4) are there any other 15"/17" laptops available in Indian market with nvidia 8600m gs in Cost range of 50k-53k?

    Guyz plz. help me in this regard. HP's offer is valid only till tomorrow. i have to decide it by tonite.


    Guys come on...Plz do reply....Which one to go for....HP dv6910tx or Dell vostro 1710?...I am in urgenc and i need ur suggestions...wat happened to everyone?

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    Hi guys, One of my friend is interested to purchase laptop, his
    Budget is Rs 25000/-
    Minimum retirement : Intel Core2dual Processor & 1 GB RAM

    Is this possible ? what brand pls?
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    Hey guys,
    i guess i need some valuable advice from u guys.
    I need to buy myself a laptop. I am confused between 4.
    -> Lenovo S10
    -> MSI Wind
    -> Asus EEE
    -> Dell XPS M1330
    My main needs are programming, watching movies, listening to music and some occasional counter strike. I guess all the above can very well handle these. Also I need portability, light weight and long battery life.
    The Lenovo is very cheap 17k but has only a 3 cell battery. Wind has everything and costs 21k but has a toylike appearance, and maybe is not that durable. EEE is same as Wind, only better looking but costs a whopping 27k.
    While the above 3 are netbooks, i am considering the XPS because, i may sometimes need to do video and audio encoding as i have a DV camcorder. But this is an option since i have a Pc which can do this too, but aint too fast (Athlon 64 3000+). But the XPS retails at around 55k after taxes. I can go there, but what i thought is that even the EEE almost costs half of that and has almost everything i need. So i am not able to decide. Can u guys help me out please.
    New Dell Inspiron 14: Intel Core i3 350 - 2.26 GHz, 2 GB DDR3 1066 MHz RAM, 320 GB 7200 RPM HDD, 512 MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurujee View Post
    even that is costly. And by d way, d indian prices r not quoted. It says check at a reseller.
    New Dell Inspiron 14: Intel Core i3 350 - 2.26 GHz, 2 GB DDR3 1066 MHz RAM, 320 GB 7200 RPM HDD, 512 MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arun the Gr8 View Post
    even that is costly. And by d way, d indian prices r not quoted. It says check at a reseller.
    then check @ resellers, because i think it should be less priced than XPS.
    Generally, Dell XPS series is costlier than inspiron series.

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