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    Default Police Apathy: How does one get his stolen phone's IMEI Number Blocked in India ?

    I had my Samsung Galaxy Y stolen on 20th December 2011. Since then I've been trying to find a way of having it tracked via IMEI number. Police has refused to lodge an FIR report to track my phone (as expected from a country like India).

    I gave up looking for a solution but now I feel since its been around 3 months since I lost it, the thief would find it safe to flash the phone with new firmware and use it as so far no tracking attempt has been made.

    Now, I want to know what other options I have to get it tracked/blocked. Legally speaking, since I own the phone and have proof of purchase, I have the right to have my phone tracked or blocked on misuse by the thief.

    But how do I proceed ?
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    Default Re: Police Apathy: How does one get his stolen phone's IMEI Number Blocked in India ?

    Unless the police intervene there's nothing much you can do by yourself.

    The carriers cannot disclose or track people at their whim. So you need a formal complaint = FIR and then have pursue them to find it.

    AFAIK and have seen none of the cases are really looked into.

    The Police are not interested in it so the thieves get away with it easily. Also the fact that tracking the phone is quite difficult based on cell location and also most of them are sold off, so the current user might be completely unaware that it's stolen.
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    i don't see what other option you have other than going through the police...unless u had software of some kind on your phone to track...had the same problem with a friends phone which was stolen from him in the train...he tried tracking it through imei numerous time but police were least bothered....
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    Doesn't any phone company let people submit proof of ownership of phone and request IMEI tracking ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham View Post
    Doesn't any phone company let people submit proof of ownership of phone and request IMEI tracking ?
    erm no...they do not let any person to track a phone irrespective if it is your own phone which you are trying to track...by phone company if u mean service providers like vodafone etc...no they don't....but i heard companies like nokia have done it before but only after a police complaint or so...they disable that particular imei,not recover it...but don't think any company does that now...
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    The Thieves must have sold it to some another user who is using it now...

    only telecom operators can help...
    if any of your frnd work in one of these service providers (Airtel,BSNL..etc) then there is a chance....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zangetsu View Post
    The Thieves must have sold it to some another user who is using it now...

    only telecom operators can help...
    if any of your frnd work in one of these service providers (Airtel,BSNL..etc) then there is a chance....
    really? how its possible by service providers??

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    MHG sire, some words from a person who has seen a phone successfully tracked.

    Firstly, why don't police do it? There are several reasons. Primarily their work culture has turned into bribe house. They won't work without getting money. They have been accustomed to it. Secondarily, due to huge pile of cases pending in our country, mobile tracking is actually a very minor case to be taken. Police thinks "kaun jhanjhat lega itna chhota sa kaam karne ke liye"

    So what you should do-

    1) Try some powerful people or similar contacts who can pressurise police to get their as$es working.

    2) Get hold of private trackers. They are basically freelancers with contacts in required dept (police & telecom) to get your work done. They just charge you some amount, proportional to your mobile cost, and return the phone after finding it. Also, they take money only if they find it. (At least in my friend's case).

    In my friend's case, his N70 was stolen back in 2006. He somehow got in contact with a private tracker and did the deal. He was charged 3k for it. N70 used to cost some 14k or so that time, so it was reasonable deal. He got his phone back after 3 months.

    I have also heard that you can get your phone blocked if not traced. But even for that, you will have to produce a FIR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zangetsu View Post
    only telecom operators can help...
    if any of your frnd work in one of these service providers (Airtel,BSNL..etc) then there is a chance....
    For that you need to have contacts in every damn operator which is nearly impossible.
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    You need IMSI number to trace him

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    What Sujay said about trackers, if true, is the only way a common man like you and I has to find a lost phone.

    Police wont waste their time on a matter as trivial as a phone.
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    Uh which city is this ? Are the police not lodging the fir because u cant prove that it was stolen and not lost ?
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    From my own experience and from what I heard from other people the chances of getting a lost phone back is really vague.
    Well my advice to all is that never carry your phone in your hand. Always keep it in your pocket or belt pouch after use when you leave your house. Most of the time phones are lost while you carry it in your hand and just somehow forget to take it back when you leave the place. Atleast thats what I have learned from my last painful experience of loosing a phone.
    I mean its always good to be extra cautious if you are carrying around expensive devices. Also most of the tracking softwares are less than useless.
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    My ex room mate's sis phone was lost a week ago. Sis' husband was in vigilance. He got the phone tracked under one week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dashing.sujay View Post
    For that you need to have contacts in every damn operator which is nearly impossible.
    No no..its not like that
    u don't have to contact every service provider
    any one will do
    coz the IMEI data is shared on central server..
    like if they have common server which holds blacklisted IMEI no's
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    ^No man. You have to know some one who controls the central exchange, owned most probably by BSNL. Only it has got the all records. Just tell me, If a person is using an airtel SIM, how'd Vodafone able to catch it?
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    ^No man. You have to know some one who controls the central exchange, owned most probably by BSNL. Only it has got the all records. Just tell me, If a person is using an airtel SIM, how'd Vodafone able to catch it?
    if a mobile phone is stolen, the owner can call his or her network provider and instruct them to "blacklist" the phone using its IMEI number. This renders the phone useless on that network and sometimes other networks too, whether or not the phone's SIM is changed.

    The Central Equipment Identity Register is a database of the IMEI numbers of blacklisted handsets. If a device's IMEI number is listed on CEIR, it is not supposed to work on any service provider.

    A common usage of the CEIR is with stolen cellphones. Once a user reports to the operator about the theft, the cell phone's IMEI number goes to CEIR, supposedly making the device unusable in any network
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    ^That's about blocking the phone which I mentioned earlier. But the service provider will ask for an FIR.
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    yes FIR is mandatory for them but OP has frnd or relative in service providers then it will help a lot if not 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by dashing.sujay View Post
    MHG sire, some words from a person who has seen a phone successfully tracked.

    Firstly, why don't police do it? There are several reasons. Primarily their work culture has turned into bribe house. They won't work without getting money. They have been accustomed to it. Secondarily, due to huge pile of cases pending in our country, mobile tracking is actually a very minor case to be taken. Police thinks "kaun jhanjhat lega itna chhota sa kaam karne ke liye"

    So what you should do-

    1) Try some powerful people or similar contacts who can pressurise police to get their as$es working.

    2) Get hold of private trackers. They are basically freelancers with contacts in required dept (police & telecom) to get your work done. They just charge you some amount, proportional to your mobile cost, and return the phone after finding it. Also, they take money only if they find it. (At least in my friend's case).

    In my friend's case, his N70 was stolen back in 2006. He somehow got in contact with a private tracker and did the deal. He was charged 3k for it. N70 used to cost some 14k or so that time, so it was reasonable deal. He got his phone back after 3 months.

    I have also heard that you can get your phone blocked if not traced. But even for that, you will have to produce a FIR.



    For that you need to have contacts in every damn operator which is nearly impossible.
    My phone cost 7k, so 1.5k for tracking it seems reasonable. Can you provide more details about these private trackers ? I would love to hire the services of one.

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    Uh which city is this ? Are the police not lodging the fir because u cant prove that it was stolen and not lost ?
    I'm from Bangalore. Police only gave an acknowledgement letter to the blocking request, and refused to register an FIR because they said its not their practice to register an FIR for a small case like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham View Post
    My phone cost 7k, so 1.5k for tracking it seems reasonable. Can you provide more details about these private trackers ? I would love to hire the services of one.
    Sadly I can't give you more info about this as I personally have no knowledge about them, and lost touch with my that friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dashing.sujay View Post
    Sadly I can't give you more info about this as I personally have no knowledge about them, and lost touch with my that friend.
    The slightest recollection about how he managed to find guys like this would go a long way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham View Post
    The slightest recollection about how he managed to find guys like this would go a long way...
    Well I have pinged a mutual friend, waiting for his response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dashing.sujay View Post
    MHG sire, some words from a person who has seen a phone successfully tracked.

    Firstly, why don't police do it? There are several reasons. Primarily their work culture has turned into bribe house. They won't work without getting money. They have been accustomed to it. Secondarily, due to huge pile of cases pending in our country, mobile tracking is actually a very minor case to be taken. Police thinks "kaun jhanjhat lega itna chhota sa kaam karne ke liye"

    So what you should do-

    1) Try some powerful people or similar contacts who can pressurise police to get their as$es working.

    2) Get hold of private trackers. They are basically freelancers with contacts in required dept (police & telecom) to get your work done. They just charge you some amount, proportional to your mobile cost, and return the phone after finding it. Also, they take money only if they find it. (At least in my friend's case).

    In my friend's case, his N70 was stolen back in 2006. He somehow got in contact with a private tracker and did the deal. He was charged 3k for it. N70 used to cost some 14k or so that time, so it was reasonable deal. He got his phone back after 3 months.

    I have also heard that you can get your phone blocked if not traced. But even for that, you will have to produce a FIR.



    For that you need to have contacts in every damn operator which is nearly impossible.





    hey friend,can you please any of private mobile trackers in mumbai?I lost my cell yesterday and complained in police station also...but still want to search it myself also as to get it back soon.
    Please let me know if you have anyones address or number which I can use to track my cell...please dude help yar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dashing.sujay View Post
    My ex room mate's sis phone was lost a week ago. Sis' husband was in vigilance. He got the phone tracked under one week.
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    Alas, none of our husbands are in vigilance. Stupid, worthless, good for nothing husbands.[/badjoke]

    @op, I dont know dude, i mean 7k is a heck lot of money, but the time and efforts you'd put wont really be worth it..considering the [infinitesimuly] chances of actually getting it back.
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    Police will register an NC (non cognizable offense) in such cases. U have the following options then

    - Get a court order (w/o this the police cannot get the power to tk action on an NC)
    - Get DCP permission
    - Followup with the police so many times that they help u.

    these days telecom operators will provide u call records from that phone for upto a month back. Helpdesks may not tell u this but u can get this from their service centre on furnishing proof of ownership and paying a nominal fee or sending an email request and paying online.

    Police can track geog locns whether cell makes a call or not.

    Keep trying.,..it is when we give up that crimes happen.

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